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Attention DB Server Admins

Post by Imaginos » 06-07-2004 22:48

Have a peek here: http://www.db-community.com/forums/show ... 5#post1985

Please consider joining the effort to keep our servers free of cheats, game spoilers and crashers.

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Post by DavidM » 07-07-2004 09:28

I think one guy shouldn't be able to have us make such an effort, he's probably dissapeared already, I wouldn't bother too much

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Post by -plær- » 07-07-2004 09:44

Isn't the whole point if UTAN that there is no effort required? Ban once, and they are banned everywhere.

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Post by DavidM » 07-07-2004 09:52

ya, and if someone is banned for a not too good reason he is banned everywhere :/
I don't like the idea. It can be done, once it's taking off, and there is some sort of Deathball Mafia that terrorizes every server...

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Post by Messy » 07-07-2004 11:45

I like the idea tbh =/

Maybe DavidM is thinking about it too much?

Deathball Mafia \o/

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Post by Wibble » 07-07-2004 11:59

David,

The idea is that this would only ever, ever be used as a last resort. I don't like the idea of banning people mistakenly either, but I saw 6 potential new people forced to leave a server because of a lamer, and this can't be good

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Post by Imaginos » 07-07-2004 15:22

Maybe that particular assclown is gone, maybe not.. but then again, there's always going to be people like Nutella that want to poison the game and go from server to server to do it. Cause hey.. not like the admins act together to stop that kind of thing.. Especially on servers with little to no admin presence but many regular players. I saw this problem with a guy called Wolf that aliased as other known players, owngoaled and left.. sometimes hitting other servers, sometimes just coming back with a different name. I identified his ass and banned him on most of the NA servers.. things went back to normal after that..
I like global bans. When used responsibly, it will prevent a problem bastard from being able to ruin games on unpoliced servers as soon as he is detected on any server. Sends the message that you don't come in and screw with the community - we'll find you and show you the door.

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Post by Steve-O » 13-07-2004 03:58

:D good job imaginos thats the way to kick jerk butt :) i try not to ruin the game but right now, i've been gone for 2 weeks so i suck so much i'm probly almost as much of a problem

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Post by Imaginos » 13-07-2004 15:54

I don't think butt liked the 2.0 version, but he hasn't done anything to get banned to the best of my knowledge..

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Post by Steve-O » 13-07-2004 16:38

hey now thats not what i meant i was speaking in general lol like about wolf i didnt know there was some1 called butt lol !

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Post by RaGe|DB » 13-07-2004 17:52

Imaginos wrote: I don't think butt liked any deathball version...ever!




....much better

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Post by Imaginos » 13-07-2004 22:54

;) Yeh, I knew what you meant, I was just playing around. Funny you mention wolf tho.. I'll be happy to negate that guys GUID if he hasn't changed his ways.

And thanx for the post fix Rage.. Somehow I missed that typo..

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Post by BuLLetHEAD » 18-10-2004 07:10

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Post by Imaginos » 18-10-2004 10:21

As more admins are coming online with UTAN, I've been pm'ed/im'id several times with ethics questions and concerns about this system and I'll try to address some of it here.

UTAN isn't meant for admins to employ in vendetta, and it's up to each admin in the DB-Community to make sure that it is employed in a responsible and justified way to prevent any perception of abuse.

How? First, there needs to be a standard that all admins agree to for banning people community wide. Any ban that is put in place should be one that every admin in the GISP will agree with. Doubly so, since their server will enforce it without their knowledge. Very careful judgement must be exercised in the use of a global ban. Sometimes other admins may need to review the ban details and the explanation/reason needs to clearly explain beyond the shadow of a doubt that the punishment fits the crime.

If there are to be community rules, all the UTAN servers' admins have to agree to them as well as uphold them.

Any and all rules should be publicly accessable. It may be helpful to have the location mentioned in the MOTD or RSS feed.

Banning is typically the last resort when it comes to enforcing rules. UTAN 2.0 will support timed suspensions which can be used as an incremental step as well.

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Current UTAN DB-Community bans

Post by Imaginos » 18-10-2004 10:47

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ID#  Date             Offender  GUID                             Reason    Admin 
1547 22/08/2004 23:07 2Real     c0a875a4095bec8ec681eaa7bf148997 Annoyance Imaginos 
1000 28/07/2004 05:08 Generic   32af618f3ba1ef8264f8deefed08553c Other     Imaginos 
999  28/07/2004 04:50 Generic   5857a730b66505da430f3bef2b845c38 Other     Imaginos 
927  21/07/2004 07:03 Buche     66763ad4cc8307916f084747ecb4596c Annoyance Imaginos
I created these bans and I can fully justify them. The annoyance bans are people I have had numerous complaints about owngoaling, interfering with keepers and taking keeper powers for the purpose of spoiling games. I have witnessed both players on my server as well as on the F0 server playing in this manner, repeatedly reconnecting with another alias and doing the same thing. Those bans will remain in place until the person responsible wants to come forward with an apology and a promise that it won't happen again.

The two 'other' categoy bans are for a pirate cdkey that has been spotted on our servers several times and a hack cd key that indicates that the client has been tampered with. All the people that play on our community servers have paid for a valid copy of UT2004 and have the right to enjoy internet play. Pirates do not.

The bullethead ban which was in place under my name has since been removed. I personally can't vouch for the validity of it, so I must defer to the admins who witnessed the events leading up to it. After a review, the ban may be recreated with the necessary supporting explanation.

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